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July 7, 2009

Setting Up Your Facebook Page

Yesterday, I explained some of the basic concepts of Facebook Pages, so you're probably all just itching to set one up yourselves! :) But before you do that, there's an important choice you need to make about HOW you're going to set up your Page. If you don't give this some consideration in advance, it could cause you problems down the line.

Setting up your Page from your own profile.

When I log in to my individual Facebook account and go to the Tech for Luddites Page, I see a different screen than the general Facebook population does when they go to the same Page.

I have some extra links in my left-hand nav bar because I'm the Page administrator: Edit Page, Add Admins, View Insights, etc. But I also have a couple of links that any fan would have: Suggest to Friends and Subscribe via SMS.

At first glance, this can seem like a good thing. I don't have to keep logging in and logging out of Facebook to switch from my individual profile to the Pages I administer. However, it also causes a few not trivial problems.

The biggest issue is that whoever originally creates the Page will never be able to be removed as an administrator. You can add as many admins as you want, but you can never transfer actual ownership of the Page to anyone else.

This isn't a big problem if your Page represents your own brand, especially if you ARE your brand—for example, authors, musicians, website publishers, etc. However, if you're administering a Page on behalf of another brand—for example, your company or a nonprofit you volunteer for—this can eventually be a problem (more for the brand than for you). What if you leave the organization and they want someone else to administer the Page? You can grant admin status to another person, but you'll still be the primary administrator. What if you left them on bad terms? And you're the person with total control over their Page? Not a good scenario. I suppose if you were causing them a big problem, they could go to Facebook and try to have you removed as an administrator, but that's hardly the optimal solution. I suspect at some point, Facebook will allow transfer of Page ownership because it simply doesn't make the slightest bit of sense, but who knows when that could happen?

Another issue that has nothing to do with control is, if you're the Page's admin, you can only ever post to the Page as the Page. By that I mean, if a fan posted a comment on a post and you wanted to reply to it as your "real self," not under the name of the Page, you can't. That may not seem like a big deal in the abstract but, believe me, it can be frustrating. For example, I also administer (and am a fan of) a Page for a nonprofit organization I'm involved with. It's a Page where we encourage fans to post their own photos. I have pics that I want to upload to the Page but, if I had it set up so it was tied to my personal profile, I wouldn't be able to do it. (Based on the last sentence, you're probably realizing there IS another option. Coming up...)

The third problem is that it can be very easy to accidentally do something, like post a link or a photo, that shows up on your personal profile, rather than on the Page's Wall. Let's say you're administering a Page for a large company and you're posting a link to one of their press releases. You may not really want to spam all your personal friends with that showing up on their home pages, but it can very easily happen.

I also know of someone who was trying to get a Facebook username for a Page she administers and she accidentally had it assigned to her personal profile. Since they're non-transferable for all eternity (supposedly), she had to find a new solution.

As I mentioned earlier, none of the above is likely to be a major issue if you and your brand are basically one and the same. But I would strongly suggest you consider the alternative before you go this approach. Even if you've already created a Page, but you haven't done much with it and you don't have many fans yet, you may seriously want to think about deleting it and creating a new one that isn't tied to your personal profile.

Note: I know some people who have created an individual profile page, separate from their own, for the sole purpose of managing their Page. It does solve the problem of reassigning the admin function, because Facebook does let you change both your name and contact information on your profile. So the new admin could just put his/her info in there. It also solves the problem of posting as "you," because you can always become a fan from your other account and add comments under your own name from there. However, I think it's an even bigger risk for the third point about accidentally posting things to your profile instead of your Page. Because while you're thinking of this account as the Page's account, Facebook is thinking of it as a personal account that just happens to have a Page attached to it. (I should also point out that having two individual profiles is a violation of Facebook's Terms of Service as well.)

Update 02/16/10: Facebook seems to have removed the multiple-accounts restriction from their Terms of Service. See this post for more information: Is Facebook Allowing Multiple Accounts Now?

How to set up the Page from your profile.

If, after all that, you still want to create your Page this way, click here and you'll be taken to the following screen where you can select a category and name for your Page. Note that multiple Pages can have the same name. That makes sense as I'm sure there's more than one city that has an Italian restaurant named Mamma Mia. Likewise, you can delete a Page at any time and create a brand new one with the same name. (Page names and usernames are not the same thing. The latter refers to the special URL you can set up so, by definition, each one has to be unique.)

IMPORTANT! Think very carefully about what category you want to be listed in (check out all the dropdown boxes to see what your options are) and the name of your Page. Facebook doesn't allow you to change these at a later date. You might think these are "duh!" settings, but maybe you first decide to write your company's name out in full, then decide later you'd rather use its acronym, because that's how everybody refers to it. You won't have that option.

Setting up an independent Page.

As hinted at earlier, Facebook also allows organizations to set up pages that are not tied to any individual's account. So far, the only disadvantage I've found of this approach is that sometimes some features aren't accessible without a personal profile, even if they're intended to be used with a Page. For example, when I tried to sign up for a username for the nonprofit's Page, it prompted me to set up a personal profile, which was exactly what I was trying to avoid. However, there's a pretty easy workaround to this situation. You can simply add yourself (using your personal account) as a secondary admin and do what needs to be done. After that, you can remove your admin privileges again to avoid the earlier problems.

Now to set up the Page. If you log out of your personal account, you'll get the regular Facebook sign-up screen and below the text boxes is a link that says "Create a Page for a celebrity, band or business."

When you click that link, you're taken to the same screen shown in the previous section and the same caveats apply about choosing a Page category and name. (Note that when you enter your name in the box as your "Electronic Signature," it doesn't tie the page back to your personal profile in any way. You're simply acknowledging you have the authority to create this Page on behalf of the company/brand and it's never used for any purpose again later.)

Next you'll be taken to a screen asking for a few more details.

The important thing here is to select the button that says, "I do not have a Facebook account." If you select the other one, you'll be prompted for your username and password and you'll end up tying this Page to your profile.

Tip: For the nonprofit Page I'm administering, I had them create a unique e-mail address for the Facebook administrator. That way, if for any reason I'm no longer available to administer the Page, they can simply give someone else access to that e-mail account.

Once you've finished signing up, you'll be sent a verification e-mail. When you've confirmed your identity and log back into Facebook, you'll be taken to this lovely screen. (Not daunting at all!)

This is where you'll be able to start adding content to bring your new Page to life. And THAT will be the topic of tomorrow's post because, if I had to guess, I would say this is probably one of the longest set of instructions you've ever seen just to sign up for something! :) But, as I said, if you don't think about this from the get-go, you may find yourself with a problem on your hands later on.

If you're still not sure about all this, please send me a note with your specific questions and I'll try to clarify it some more.

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Comments

{ 19 comments… read them below or add one }

NewToPages July 14, 2009 at 6:15 am

1. Is there a way to tell if a Page is tied to a personal account? In particular, is there an Admin section that has basic info: who set up Page, when created, etc? (I set one up but don’t remember the exact steps, but I think it’s tied to my personal account.)
2. Is there a way to put a link in Personal site to Pages I admin (separate from other links)?
Thank you!

Brendon Basile July 23, 2009 at 12:46 pm

I know there us away to prevent outside comments to the page, but is there away to preview comments left by fans of your page before letting it appear to the general public?
Thanks

Elizabeth July 23, 2009 at 12:52 pm

No, there’s no way to preview comments. They go live immediately. Even worse, unlike with personal profiles, there’s no way to be alerted when someone does leave a comment (or post any type of content) on your page. So you do need to check your page regularly to see what your fans have been saying on it.

erin August 3, 2009 at 10:47 am

this is great advice! i’ve been looking everywhere for info on how to post to our page as me (not as the department).
if only i’d read it before i created our department page. :) thanks for posting!

Laurie August 4, 2009 at 7:03 am

I hate that I can’t comment as me on my page, but what is a problem is individuals that became fans can not have their related pages be fans, is that correct?
They have to choose between their page being a fan or them personally being a fan, but not both? is there a way around this?
Thx for the clarity.

Elizabeth August 9, 2009 at 11:17 am

Glad it helped, Erin.
Laurie, I’ve posted some info re. your question at http://www.techforluddites.com/2009/08/reader-questions-more-about-facebook-pages.html. Hope it helps.

Prateeque August 14, 2009 at 4:29 am

I read this article today. I made my facebook page yesterday. Made all the mistakes you talked about unfortunately. Guess I’m going to have to keep coming back to you for some help…
Great stuff..

Jackie Dishner September 27, 2009 at 10:09 am

I love how you always come to the rescue with your posts. The help is much appreciated, though there was so much here, that I’m going to have to return when I actually decide to set up the page. Thanks!

Jack November 20, 2009 at 5:46 am

When I, or one of my admins, update our business page wall it also updates my status on my personal page. How do I stop that?

Aneta Hall December 3, 2009 at 1:52 pm

Thanks for sharing your insights! I have a question and hoping you could help me. I created a fan page and published it, but FB is forcing all visitors to log in before seeing the page’s content. Is there a setting I overlooked?
thanks!

brigitte December 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm

Does anyone know how I can take the admin name out of postings to be published?

Thomas January 17, 2010 at 1:15 pm

If we use your advice on setting up an independent page then a new account would be created. Though they do not make it clear on their main tos page Facebook says it is a violation of their policy to have more than one account.

In this case wouldn’t it be better to have a family member who doesn’t use facebook to set up the account and make you the admin?

Elizabeth January 18, 2010 at 8:48 am

Thomas, technically it could be seen as a violation of the terms of service. I believe if you created a Page for an organization/company that isn’t solely identified with you (like a nonprofit that I administer a page for), Facebook wouldn’t have a problem with that. In my case, I had the organization create a specific e-mail account for their Facebook administrator, so no individual in the org would be associated with it. The only time my name came up was when I asserted I had the right to create the page, and that info doesn’t show up anywhere within the account settings.

But if you’re worried about it, it wouldn’t hurt for you to have someone who doesn’t already have an FB account actually create it and then you do the actual admin work. Note that if they make you an admin through your personal account, you’ll have the same limitations as if you created the page from within your page yourself. However, they could just give you the login info for the account, which would let you post there as the Page and post from your account as you.

To give you a sense of why this is a ridiculous policy, I would imagine that FB would be deliriously happy if every single person in the world joined the service. But then nobody would ever be able to create a Page under their TOS. Doesn’t make a lot of sense…

Thomas January 20, 2010 at 12:00 pm

Elizabeth, yes I see no violation if the organization is basically the ones who own the page and you administer it as you said. I still can’t understand why this particular policy isn’t in the main tos to begin with. I had to find out about it from someone else then do some searching to even find it on facebook.

Kip March 10, 2010 at 3:41 am

Hi and thanks for so many informative articles! I’ve been messing around with setting up pages and followed your instructions for setting up a page not associated with a profile, but I find it just sets up another profile and all the information I initially filled in about the page has seemingly disappeared. Any thoughts? Cheers!

Elizabeth March 10, 2010 at 9:43 am

Hmmm… I can’t think of what the problem might be. Feel free to write directly to me at F1@TechForLuddites.com with more details about what exactly is happening and maybe I can think of something.

Patricia Konomos June 4, 2010 at 3:33 pm

Matt set up our neighborhood assn. facebook page. He is very busy, so he set up Natalie and I as administrators. Just now, I found out how to delete posts on the site (Profile page); but what I can’t do is keep incoming posts FROM the individuals’ facebook pages from coming INTO our neighborhood assn. facebook page. So everything I publish from my personal page comes into the NA site.News page (Home page). Same with the other “friends” (only 8 so far, thank God).

The Wall has only stuff initiated on the site. That is what we want. Outflow from our page is good, inflow from all member pages is overwhelming. Did Matt set us up wrong? Or, to say it nicely, Can we fix this?

Elizabeth June 6, 2010 at 7:54 am

Posts from your individual accounts should not be coming into your association page at all. I’m not sure what’s happening there. Can you send me an email to F1@TechForLuddites.com with your Page’s URL so I can check it out? It might be a few days before I can get back to you. I don’t currently have regular internet access, but should by middle of the week.

Kim July 1, 2010 at 10:32 am

I have made a business page and not attached it to a business profile. I have told it to publish. I am not able to search it and find it though through my personal account. I set up a profile for my employer to see if that would work having it attached to a profile and it still won’t find it when I search. I have deleted the profile and page and started over numerous times. Any suggestions what I may be missing? Thank you

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